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Nikita M. Plaksin
6557 feenschach 109 11/1993
Weiß nimmt 1 Zug zurück, dann =1
R: 1. Ka3-a4?, dann 1. Lxa2=
R: 1. Ka3xBa4!, dann 1. Lxa2=
play all play one stop play next play all
Mit folgender witziger Begründung des Autors: "If on the board are only KL-KL (and LL on squares of the same colour), by the rules of chess an immediate draw occurs! Therefore, the retro move Ka3-a4 is illegal." Ein Fehllöser: "Reichlich trivial." Ein Ratloser: "... oder wie darf ich das sehen?" TK hatte den Durchblick: "Die doppelte Rücknahmemöglichkeit kann man aber gar nicht übersehen (und schon gar nicht der Autor). Einzige Möglichkeit: nur Ka3xBa4, weil andernfalls die Stellung schon vorher patt wäre. Aber, aber: das ist remis, kein Patt!!" FR: "Meine 'Ehrenlösung' für diese Gruppe (hoffentlich stimmt sie auch)." WM: "Nette Pointe. Das erzähl' ich meinen Kindern, daß ich einen PLAKSIN gelöst habe." 1,2/I
A harbinger of Dead Reckoning-style reasoning, before that rule ever existed. As sound today in 2018, as when it was composed under "insufficient material for mate" rule.
Henrik Juel: Nice to see that I am not the only freak who mixes english text with german notation (to avoid the ambiguous B)
Were you inspired by this problem in your work on Dead Reckoning, Andrew? (2020-05-04)
A.Buchanan: Ha no: when I stumbled across DP rule I knew even less about chess problems than I know now, if you can imagine, and had never encountered this one which Werner Keym unearthed and published it in "Out Of the Box". Ecclesiastes 1:9 says "There is nothing new under the sun." Mario made this point about origin of Schnoebelen promotions too. Gollon's intepretation of Chaturanga (the earliest known forebear of chess) offers fascinating possibilities for Schnoebelen promotion, which I am sure the Indian retrograde analysts of 7th Century CE were adept at exploiting, in tablets alas now lost. See https://www.chessvariants.com/historic.dir/chaturanga.html.

The "insufficient material" composition does perhaps explain Plaksin's openness to the concept of DP, at a time when perhaps some noses elsewhere were being turned up, as he later composed with Kornilov *27* other DP problems, all to be found in PDB. (2020-05-04)
Ladislav Packa: Interesting, but on YouTube I saw a game (one of the actors was Magnus Carlsson), which ended in a position with only two kings and one of the players still made a move. (2020-05-05)
A.Buchanan: http://wismuth.com/chess/illegal-moves.html contains many other games where GMs were unable to tear themselves away from playing the dead game. I think it's kind of sweet that the GMs just can't stop playing. Have you got a link to the Carlsen game please, Ladislav? (2020-05-06)
Ladislav Packa: I'm sorry, Andrew, but I don't remember. I've seen hundreds of games on youtube. But I encountered similar cases in my own practice, mostly a joke, and the game immediately ended with a smile and a handshake. (2020-05-06)
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Keywords: Help retractor, Dead Position, Aristocrat, Miniature
Genre: Retro
FEN: 8/8/8/8/K7/8/b7/kB6
Reprints: 440 Out Of the Box , p. 141, 2018
www.thbrand.de 14/01/2018
Input: Gerd Wilts, 1995-06-03
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2020-08-27 more...
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