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1 - P1380320
James Malcom
www.chess.com 9/7/2020
P1380320
(9+9)
#5
1. Kd3! droht 2. Ke4 ... 3. Kf3 ... 4. Lxg2#,Lxg4#
1. ... Sh5 2. Txh5 b5 3. e8=T! b4 4. Te6 Sxe5+,S~ 5. Txe5#,Tx~#
1. ... Se6,Sf5 2. Lxe6,Lxf5 b5 3. e8=L! b4 4. Lh5 Lf6,L~ 5. Lhxg4#
1. ... b5 2. e8=L! Se6,Sf5 3. Lxe6,Lxf5 b4 4. Lh5 Lf6,L~ 5. Lhxg4#
play all play one stop play next play all
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Henrik Juel: Correct key, but damaged by multiple threats and duals, e.g.
1.Kd3 thr. 2.e8=DTLS,Ke4 (2020-09-27)
James Malcom: Typo fixed. And Henrik, the threats are not the point here. The point here is how the different play of the Black knight changes White's promotions. (2020-09-27)
A.Buchanan: It's a beautiful idea, still looking for its rendering though as the many duals and the obstreperous wL are quite distracting (2020-09-28)
James Malcom: There aren't any duals in full-length variations, though. The extra bishop is indeed annoying, but unfixable so far. (2020-09-28)
A.Buchanan: There are still some trivial duals in the mating move, but yes. This problem is trying to ignore threats: you can see that the computer solution. The solution is much more coherent with "nosh noth" switched on. So when are the cases, Henrik, when you switch those options on? It would be event better if one was able to switch threats on for the 4th move. This underscores that there should be a Popeye option for any white move "noth" is self-selecting, depending upon the number of variations. (2020-09-29)
Henrik Juel: Andrew, I use the Popeye option 'nosh' when the output without them is overwhelmingly large
The 'not' option is tricky, and usually expands the output; in some cases it shows apparent duals that are not real ones, when you apply the rule that dualistic play should be ignored, when it appears after black moves that do not prevent the threat
In the case of multiple threats things get messy, like in this problem, as I recall (2020-09-29)
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Keywords: under-promotion (T, L), Changed mates, Non-standard material (L)
Genre: n#
FEN: 2B4R/4P1n1/1p6/4P3/6nb/1P2p2k/2K1Pprp/5B1N
Reprints: MatPlus.net Forum 10/7/2020
Input: James Malcom, 2020-09-27
Last update: James Malcom, 2020-09-29 more...
2 - P1380353
James Malcom
Guus Rol

www.chess.com 15/7/2020
P1380353
(11+11) C+
#4
1. d8=L!
1. ... Tb8 2. cxb8=L! d4 3. Le5 Lxf4+ 4. Lxf4#
1. ... Txd8 2. cxd8=S! d4 3. Se6 Lxf4+ 4. Sxf4#
1. ... Ta8 2. h8=D! Txd8 3. Txe3+ Kxe3 4. De5#
2. ... d4 3. Dxd4 ... 4. Dxe3#,Txe3#
1. ... Txc7 2. Lxc7 d4 3. Le5 Lxf4+ 4. Lxf4#
1. ... d4 2. Sc4 ... 3. Txd2+ Ke1 4. Lxf2#
play all play one stop play next play all
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Henrik Juel: C+ Popeye 4.61 (except for a mate dual) (2020-09-27)
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Keywords: under-promotion key (L), Promotion (D), under-promotion (S)
Genre: n#
Computer test: Popeye 4.61
FEN: 2r1R3/2PP3P/1N5K/1P1p4/1p3P2/1B1pbp2/3pkrp1/3R1bB1
Input: James Malcom, 2020-09-27
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2020-10-13 more...
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