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1 - P1372814
Per Olin
?
P1372814
(2+1) C+
h#4
1. Kf7 e8=T! 2. Kg6 0-0-0-0-0-0! 3. Kh5 Kf4 4. Kh4 Th2#
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The origins of this joke h#4, which utilizes Pam-Krabbe castling in a minimal form, was a mystery conjured by Per Olin, so far the only person who seems to actually know of it.

On the Internet, help was asked. On February 17, 2009, they sent a request for help on the Retro mailing list-ttps://pairlist1.pair.net/pipermail/retros/2009-February/002826.html This is what they said.

"Supercastling means castling with a promoted rook. Due to changed FIDE
rules it is nowadays illegal. It is said to have been invented by Max Pam, which inspired Tim Krabbe in 1972 (Hesse gives a different year) to compose a threemover including three different white castlings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke_chess
_problem#Offbeat_interpretations_of_the_rules_of_chess

With the same supermove I composed a twomover (Stella Polaris 1975), Bengt Ingre has published a twomover (Mora Tidning 1993) and we have recently even seen an endgame study with this speciality.

Back in the good old seventies I was informed that there is a helpmate fourmover Ke1 pe7 - Ke8 (2+1) with the supercastling: 1.Kf7 e8T 2.Kg6 0000 3.Kh5 Kf4 4.Kh4 Th2#. Could be that as composer was mentioned Dawson, could be that it was somebody else. Could be that this is the first supercastling, could be that I have dreamt the whole problem.

Can anybody trace this problem?
Best regards
Per Olin"

It went unanswered. A decade later, on June 8th in the Matplus.net forums, they tried their luck again, but also to no avail-http://matplus.net/start.php?px=1582139891&app=forum&act=posts&fid=anti&tid=2302

Olin wrote: "Time wise this could have been inspired by the Krabbe problem. I have no memory of seeing that, but it could have been showed / mentioned in some meeting of the Finnish Chess Problem Society. What I vaguely remember is the following: (diagram) h#4

In an article in the magazine Suomen Tehtäväniekat, January 1994 I asked for author (Dawson?) and publication details, no response. The same question has been asked around one decade ago, probably here in Mat Plus Forum, no response. Question: can anybody trace the helpmate? - The solutions of both problems are obvious. - The chess rules of today say that castling is a move of the king and either rook of the same color along the player’s first rank; this was not the wording in the 70ies and earlier."

On January 4, 2021, a year and a half later, a reply was posted in the same thread to point exactly where they had asked a decade earlier (as aforementioned). Olin's reply, which currently stands as accepted, finally brings closure to this mystery: "Thanks! If the problem is nowhere to be found, then I must have dreamt it and attributed it by mistake to somebody else. Can I claim authorship?"

Now Per Olin has been credited as the author, properly and at long last. An exact source, if not the drifting memories of Olin's 1970's lost in time, is still quite the enigma, unless the 1994 reprint was the first time, which it likely may not be.
Hobacle: The problem of the last century! (2021-10-30)
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Keywords: Joke, Staugaard castling, under-promotion (T), Kindergarten Problem, Minimal, Miniature, Homebase (s), Rex solus (s), Oneliner, Home-and-Away-Base
Genre: h#, Fairies
Computer test: C+ WinChloe for Rokagogo + reflection that this is sufficient evidence
FEN: 4k3/4P3/8/8/8/8/8/4K3
Reprints: Suomen Tehtäväniekat 01/1994
Retros mailing list 17/02/2009
(2) Mat Plus 8/6/19
Input: James Malcom, 2020-02-19
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2024-01-18 more...
2 - P1375777
James Malcom
PDB Website 10/4/2020
nach Josef Cumpe
P1375777
(1+8)
Last two moves?
(-:
R: 1. 0-0-0# a7-a8=sT
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See P1234039
Henrik Juel: Missing Joke keyword, I guess (2020-05-11)
A.Buchanan: Curious that retro a7-a8=sT discomforts the animation still - maybe you should report to Gerd? (I trouble him with enough stuff already - don't want to be the only one emailing him! :-) (2020-05-11)
A.Buchanan: Maybe +sBe7f7 to refute R. ... e8=sK/fxe8=sK :-) Note this "cook" is actually prevented in the original. (2020-05-11)
A.Buchanan: Oops and a more major cook R: 1. Se8/g8-f6+ (2020-05-11)
James Malcom: This problem was only half-finished before I fell asleep. It’s fixed now. (2020-05-11)
A.Buchanan: Great! You could save another piece I think -sLg6, -sBf7, + sDf7. This also removes the obtrusive promotion (2020-05-11)
James Malcom: Yes, that is true. Position edited. (2020-05-11)
James Malcom: I see nothing wrong with fiddling if it improves economy. (2020-05-11)
A.Buchanan: If promotion to Bl unit is allowed, can’t Bl just have played e8xd7+ or g8xh7+? Can replace bPd7 with bR but eliminating bPh7 is more complicated. Need +wPh7 +bPg6h6. And also bRb7 to prevent discovered check by bPc8 prior to e7-e8=bK. I think that’s watertight now! :-) (2020-10-13)
A.Buchanan: The issue is that there are two or three levels of Bl promotion joke: this problem relies on the "basic" joke where black officers can be created. But where's the line to stop us promoting to Bl pawn or king? If we go that far, then a position like this 2kr3K/1r1r1qrR/7p/8/8/8/8/8 is required. Oh dear: sorry to have brought it up :( (2020-10-13)
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Keywords: Castling in the retro play, Promotion in the retro play (t), Rex solus (w), Joke, Joke promotion, Type C
Genre: Retro
FEN: 2kr3K/1p1ppqrp/8/8/8/8/8/8
Input: James Malcom, 2020-05-11
Last update: Alfred Pfeiffer, 2020-10-14 more...
3 - P1380852
James Malcom
Andrew Buchanan

MatPlus.net Forum 12/10/2020
after Josef Cumpe
P1380852
(1+7)
Last two moves?
(-:
R: 1. 0-0-0+ a7-a8=sT
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See P1234039 and P1375777
The joke here is that pawns may promote to enemy officers (but not to pawns or kings)
Henrik Juel: R: 1... 0-0-0+ 2.a7-a8=sT! (2020-10-12)
A.Buchanan: Maybe this is a moderate joke where we allow promotion to Bl officers, while son-of-P1375777 can be the extreme joke where promotion to any Bl unit is allowed (i.e. pawn & king too), including in the history of the game. What would Josef Cumpe think? :-) He and I are both dressed as clerics in out chesscomposers' blogspot pics: http://chesscomposers.blogspot.com/2012/08/august-16th.html. Perhaps he was a real one though? (2020-10-13)
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Keywords: Last Moves?, Joke promotion (t), Rex solus, Type C, Castling in the retro play, Joke, Promotion in the retro play (t), Castling (sg)
Genre: Retro
FEN: 2kr2K1/1p1p1npr/8/8/8/8/8/8
Input: A.Buchanan, 2020-10-12
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2023-08-15 more...
4 - P1380941
Doug Brown
Chess Life and Review 8/1976
P1380941
(6+1)
#2
1. Tc7! Ke7 2. d8=sS#!
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Here's an illegitimate 2-mover for all you illegitimate problem lovers. Submitted by Doug Brown, Moorestown, NJ. Solution below.

(diagram)


(Incidentally, Doug, your mate position on 3 ranks does not need the King. Try again.)
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Keywords: Joke, Joke promotion, Miniature, Rex solus (s)
Genre: 2#
FEN: 3k4/3P3N/N7/4K3/B7/8/8/2R5
Input: James Malcom, 2020-10-15
Last update: Alfred Pfeiffer, 2020-10-15 more...
5 - P1381502
James Malcom
chess.stackexchange.com 13/6/2020
P1381502
(6+1) C+
#1
Bosma
1. Se5#!
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A.Buchanan: Trivial verification, perhaps, but at least it confirms that WinChloe's understanding of the condition resembles James'. (2020-11-13)
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Keywords: Joke, Bosma, Miniature, Flight taking, Rex solus (s)
Genre: n#, Fairies
Computer test: C+ WinChloe 3.51
FEN: 8/7B/3B2NK/8/5k2/6P1/5Q2/8
Input: James Malcom, 2020-11-03
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2024-02-01 more...
6 - P1390927
Andrew Buchanan
v MatPlus.net Forum 26/06/2021
after Bedrich Formanek
P1390927
(11+2)
#1 (-:
9 solutions
PPRA (Partial PRA = PRA except ignore cases having no solution)
1) 1. g8=CM# R: 1. Kg6xCMh5 CMe4-h5+
2) 1. g8=AD# R: 1. Kg6xADh5 ADc2(d3,e4)-h5+++
3) 1. c8=GZ# R: 1. Kg6xGZh5 GZc2-h5+
4) 1. c8=GQ# R: 1. Kg6xGQh5 GQc2-h5+
5) 1. b8=GF# R: 1. Kg6xGFh5 GFd3-h5+
6) 1. bxa8=GE# R: 1. Kg6xGEh5 GEe4-h5+
7) 1. b8=N# R: 1. Kg6xNh5 Nd3-h5+
8) 1. g8=QN# R: 1. Kg6xQNh5 QNe4-f6-h5+
9) 1. h8=TP# R: 1. Kg6xTPh5 TPf5-h5+
Minor duals, with both mates separately provided elsewhere:
1) 1. g8=GR,b8=GR# R: 1. Kg6xGRh5 GRd3(e4)-h5+
2) 1. g8=MG,h8=MG# R: 1. Kg6xMGh5 MGc2(d3,e4)-h5+
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What was Black's last move? It can only have been Kg6-h5, fleeing check. But what was White's prior move: it could only have been a fairy piece moving to h5 from the diagonal c2-f5, discovering check. Then this piece was captured by bK. What kind of piece was it? The idea is that for each feasible piece, there should be exactly one corresponding promotion mate.

1) Camel = (1,3)-Leaper
2) Eagle
3) Gazelle = (3-5)-Leaper
4) Giraffe Quintessence = right-angle turn Girafferider, Giraffe = (1,4)-Leaper
5) Greater Leafhopper
6) Greater Treehopper
7) Nightrider
8) Quintessence = right-angle turn Nightrider
9) Rookhopper

Minor duals, where both solutions are separately provided elsewhere:
1) Gnurider
2) Marguerite = Eagle+Grasshopper+Hamster+Moose+Sparrow, only the first two sub-creatures are used)

Tries:
1)It looks as if one might rotate the board 180 degrees: 1. Bb3#! Not 1. b3+? Kxa3!
The position is legal because e.g. R: 1. g8=B+.
However this doesn't work because it's not thematic :)
2) It looks as if R: 1. Kg6-h5 c2-c3+ might be good. Who's to say in a fairy form that wL can't begin on b1? Well if you can show me a fairy piece which can throw other pieces around the board, then let's consider it, but fairy conditions are excluded here, for sanity's sake.

Would be cooks - but the soundness is protected by the halo of PPRA :)
Bishop Eagle, Boy Scout, Dabbaba, Equihopper, Lancer, Moarider Lion, Radial Leaper
AB: See P0001924. Bedrich Formanek is happy with his problem, but welcomes a larger zoo.

I think this is a kind of PRA problem (although PRA is defined currently only for castling and ep). A PRA problem is regarded has having one solution with many parts. So maybe that points the way how to stipulate the problem. The joke version PRA (= Partial PRA) says that PRA applies to all the parts that it does, but not to the others, particularly those with no solution).

It's clear that there are more pieces which would solve the problem. Why not Gnurider or Gazellerider instead of Gnu or Gazelle? Why not Gnurider instead of Nightrider? Etc. Why not Grasshopper instead of Rookhopper? The PRA notion would prevent these from cooking the problem: each is indeed a separate part. As long as whatever was just captured can be uniquely reborn to deliver mate, the problem is sound. The published solution shows the most basic representative piece for each of the patterns, with no unused capability.

As a PRA problem, if a kind of fairy piece might legitimately have been captured on h5, yet does not offer a mating promotion, that would make the problem unsound. And indeed there are two such creatures known: Dabbaba and Lancer. However fortunately we are working with the looser PPRA meta-convention which only applies where it applies.

In earlier versions, the eagle was considered a try, but actually I think it implied an insoluble PRA part, but fortunately could be fixed.
Henrik Juel: if last move was Kg6xGh5, 1.gxh8=G#
if last move was Kg6xYh5 (Y=1,3-S=Camel), 1.g8=Y#
if last move was Kg6xYh5 (Y=rookhopper), 1.gxh8=Y# (This looks like a cook)
if last move was Kg6xYh5 (Y=5,3-S), 1.c8=Y#
if last move was Kg6xNh5, 1.b8=N# (2021-06-20)
A.Buchanan: Thanks Henrik - as discussed: I don’t think Rookhopper is a cook, but is a separate part of the PRA solution. Maybe it’s the fundamental solution and Grasshopper is the one with unneeded additional functionality but Grasshopper is the more common one. Nice for some of these unfamiliar creatures to get some exposure... (2021-06-20)
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Keywords: Joke (PPRA), Phoenix (9), Last Moves?, Partial Retro Analysis (PRA), Rex solus, Promotion (9), Minimal
Pieces: tu = Rookhopper (TP), sr = Camel (CM), su = Nightrider (N), lu = Gazelle (GZ), dl = Eagle (AD), sl = Quintessence (QN), lr = Giraffe Quintessence (QG), du = Greater Treehopper (GE), dr = Greater Leafhopper (GF)
Genre: Retro, Fairies
FEN: b7/1PP3PP/7B/6Pk/8/2P3K1/P3P3/1B6
Input: A.Buchanan, 2021-06-19
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2022-01-09 more...
7 - P1404282
Mikhail Mikhaylov
2 Shakhmatna Misl , p. 160, 10/1956
P1404282
(6+1)
#2
1. a8=sS (Zugzwang)
1. ... Sc7 2. Sb8#
1. ... Sb6 2. Tc5#
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Henrik Juel: Popeye 4.61 finds no solution (2022-09-11)
SCHRECKE: 1. a8=sS!
1. ... Sb6 2. Tc5#
1. ... Sc7 2. Sb8# (2022-09-12)
Henrik Juel: A joke problem, I see... (2022-09-12)
Mario Richter: Sorry, Henrik, I thought you've learned from the past that I sometimes can't resist to present a little trap. I was sure you would detect that popeye finds no solution to this seemingy simple position, but I expected that you - knowing me - would conclude that there must be something more about it (even more, since I presented it at Weekend). So I hope you can forgive me my little joke ... :-) (2022-09-12)
Henrik Juel: No problem, Mario
And Michael saw the trick (2022-09-12)
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Keywords: Rex solus (s), Joke promotion, Miniature, Joke
Genre: 2#
FEN: 2B5/PN6/N1k5/1R6/1K6/8/8/8
Input: Mario Richter, 2022-09-11
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2022-09-13 more...
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