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1 - P1227639
Ottó Titusz Bláthy
(24) The Chess Amateur 09/1922
P1227639
(2+16) C+
#16
1. Kxe1 Da1 2. h3! Da2 3. h4 Da1 4. h5 Da2 5. h6 Da1 6. h7 Da2 7. h8=S Da1 8. Sf7 Da2 9. Sd6 Da1 10. Sb7 Da2 11. Sxc5 Da1 12. Sb7 Da2 13. Sa5 Da1 14. Sxc4 Da2 15. Sa5 Da1 16. Sxb3#
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Der Springerweg im Zug 8-11 und 12-14 ist natürlich dualistisch.
Uppström veröffentlicht hierzu 1999 eine Verbesserung als #13 (P1228972)
In ND 10) steht der wK auf e1 und gefordert sind #15 mit
Schlüsselzug 1.h4!
Frank Müller: vgl. 1228 FIDE-Album 1914-44/II (2011-12-22)
Erich Bartel: weitere Nachdrucke:
1) MAT III-IV 1981
2) Schach und Mathematik 1983,S.107
3) Mat Plus (11) Autumn 1996
4) Rund um das Schachbrett 1955,S.59
5) 133 Bajke na sahovskoj ploci, 1992
6) Springaren (78) IX 1999,S.128
7) Die Schwalbe (10) IV 1960
8) 114 Probleme für Tiger (10) X 1984
9) 11 Minimalprobleme 1962
10) The Ural Problemist (37) 2004
11) 312 Schachmatna Mosaika 1984 (2013-02-10)
James Malcom: This seems computer testable, excluding the minor duals that there are. (2020-11-18)
Olaf Jenkner: Yes, Gustav gives 65 duals in less than one second. (2020-11-18)
James Malcom: But seeing as how that is part of the intention, clearly, and this is still a widely accepted and reprinted problem, is it C+ with the duals in mind as allowed? (2020-11-19)
SP: Though many problems exist where unsoundness is part of the intention, such as separators in solving tourneys, this is obviously not the case here. Are you seriously suggesting that if Bláthy could show his idea without the duals he would not have done so? (2023-07-10)
Olaf Jenkner: It's an old question what C+ means.
There are promotion duals, triangle manoevres and other stuff what we call "tolerated duals".
In this case I'd think C+ means "computer confirmed the author's intention".
It's different from FIDE rules. (2023-07-10)
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Keywords: Minimal, Excelsior, under-promotion
Genre: n#
Computer test: Gustav
FEN: 8/8/8/2p5/1pp5/brpp4/qpprpK1P/1nkbn3
Reprints: (1) FIDE Revue 04-06/1964
42 Kurioses Schach 1975
Input: Mario Richter, 2011-12-22
Last update: James Malcom, 2022-04-12 more...
2 - P1372653
Ottó Titusz Bláthy
37 Vielzügige Schachaufgaben , p. 41, 1890
P1372653
(9+9)
#108
1. Kd2 Ka7 2. Kc1 Kb8 3. Kb1 Ka7 4. Ka1 Kb8 5. Ka2 Ka7 6. Ka3 Kb8 7. Kb4 Ka7 8. Ka5 f6 9. Kb4 Kb8 10. Ka3 Ka7 11. Ka2 Kb8 12. Ka1 Ka7 13. Kb1 Kb8 14. Ka2 Ka7 15. Ka3 Kb8 16. Kb4 Ka7 17. Ka5 f5 18. Kb4 Kb8 19. Ka3 Ka7 20. Ka2 Kb8 21. Ka1 Ka7 22. Kb1 Kb8 23. Ka2 Ka7 24. Ka3 Kb8 25. Kb4 Ka7 26. Ka5 g6 27. Kb4 Kb8 28. Ka3 Ka7 29. Ka2 Kb8 30. Ka1 Ka7 31. Kb1 Kb8 32. Ka2 Ka7 33. Ka3 Kb8 34. Kb4 Ka7 35. Ka5 g5 36. Kb4 Kb8 37. Ka3 Ka7 38. Ka2 Kb8 39. Ka1 Ka7 40. Kb1 Kb8 41. Ka2 Ka7 42. Ka3 Kb8 43. Kb4 Ka7 44. Ka5 h6 45. Kb4 Kb8 46. Ka3 Ka7 47. Ka2 Kb8 48. Ka1 Ka7 49. Kb1 Kb8 50. Ka2 Ka7 51. Ka3 Kb8 52. Kb4 Ka7 53. Ka5 h5 54. Kb4 Kb8 55. Ka3 Ka7 56. Ka2 Kb8 57. Ka1 Ka7 58. Kb1 Kb8 59. Ka2 Ka7 60. Ka3 Kb8 61. Kb4 Ka7 62. Ka5 f4 63. Kb4 Kb8 64. Ka3 Ka7 65. Ka2 Kb8 66. Ka1 Ka7 67. Kb1 Kb8 68. Ka2 Ka7 69. Ka3 Kb8 70. Kb4 Ka7 71. Ka5 h4 72. Kb4 Kb8 73. Ka3 Ka7 74. Ka2 Kb8 75. Ka1 Ka7 76. Kb1 Kb8 77. Ka2 Ka7 78. Ka3 Kb8 79. Kb4 Ka7 80. Ka5 f3 81. Kb4 Kb8 82. Ka3 Ka7 83. Ka2 Kb8 84. Ka1 Ka7 85. Kb1 Kb8 86. Ka2 Ka7 87. Ka3 Kb8 88. Kb4 Ka7 89. Ka5 h3 90. Kb4 Kb8 91. Ka3 Ka7 92. Ka2 Kb8 93. Ka1 Ka7 94. Kb1 Kb8 95. Ka2 Ka7 96. Ka3 Kb8 97. Kb4 Ka7 98. Ka5 b4 99. Kxb4 a3 100. bxa3 Kxa6 101. b8=T Ka7 102. Tb6 Ka8 103. Ka5 Ka7 104. Tb1 Ka8 105. Kb6 Kb8 106. Td1 Kc8 107. Td6 Kb8 108. Td8#

100. ... Kb8 101. Kxc4 Kc7 102. Kd4 Kb8 103. Ke5 Kc7 104. a4 Kb8 105. Kd6 Ka7 106. Kc7 Kxa6 107. b8=D Ka5 108. Da7#,Da8#

Der Versuch 1. Kd4? Kc7 2. Ke5 findet in 2. ... b4! seine Widerlegung.
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Superseded by P1382048
James Malcom: I believe that this is the record for the longest Kindergarden problem! The second longest that I know of is P1299269. (2020-02-14)
James Malcom: Actually, as it turns out, this is superseded by P1382048, with a total of four whole moves. (2020-11-18)
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Keywords: Sea Snake, Kindergarten Problem, Move Length Record, Promotion (T,D), under-promotion
Genre: n#
FEN: 1k6/1P3ppp/P1p5/1pP5/p1p3p1/2P1K1P1/1P3P1P/8
Input: James Malcom, 2020-02-14
Last update: James Malcom, 2020-11-18 more...
3 - P1379073
Ottó Titusz Bláthy
56 Magyar Sakkvilag 01/02/1924
P1379073
(8+10)
h#40
(nicht exakt!)
1. Lg7 Ke8 2. Lf8 Kd8 3. Lg7 Kd7 4. Lf8 Kc6 5. Lg7 Kb5 6. Lf8 Kb4 7. Lg7 Kc3 8. Lf8 Kd2 9. Lg7 Ke1 10. Lf8 Kf1 11. Lg7 Kg1 12. Lf8 Kh2 13. Lg7 Kh3 14. Lf8 Kg4 15. Lg7 Kxf3 16. Lf8 Ke2 17. Lg7 Kd2 18. Lf8 Kc3 19. Lg7 Kc4 20. Lf8 Kb5 21. Lg7 Kc6 22. Lf8 Kd7 23. Lg7 Ke8 24. Lf8 Kxf8 25. f3 Ke8 26. Kg7 Kd8 27. Kf8 Kc8 28. Ke8 Kb7 29. Kd8 Kb6 30. Kc8 Kc6 31. Kb8 Kd7 32. Ka8 Ke8 33. Kb8 Kf8 34. Kc8 Kxg8 35. Kd8 Kf8 36. Kc8 Kxe7 37. Kb8 Kd7 38. Ka8 Kc6 39. Kb8 e7 40. Kc8 e8=D#,e8=T#
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Henrik Juel: The late part of the solution is dualistic (2020-08-14)
Joost de Heer: The first dual is already at move 6 (Kb4 or Kc4), so it's not just the late part that's dualistic. (2023-01-30)
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Keywords: Promotion in the mating move, under-promotion in mating move (T)
Genre: h#
FEN: 5bnk/4pK1p/3pPp1p/3P1P1P/3P1p2/3P1p2/5P2/8
Input: Rainer Staudte, 2020-08-14
Last update: James Malcom, 2023-01-31 more...
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