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1 - P1374643
James Malcom
PDB Website 14/4/2020
“Egg Five”
P1374643
(5+2)
s#1
(-:
1. hxg8=sB! g7#
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Henrik Juel: Here the extra joke is that the (dummy) pawn can move (2020-04-14)
James Malcom: The newly born black pawn is not a dummy pawn, in my opinion. Unlike the dummy, it still has the right to move foward in principal. Since it is new and has never moved, it sill has the right to make a double-step if allowed, as in Horde Chess (https://lichess.org/variant/horde). (2020-04-14)
Henrik Juel: I see your point, James (2020-04-15)
James Malcom: Seems that Gerd might have missed including pawns promoting to opposite color pawns the new update. I'll email him tomorrow morning. With accordance to the rules, they have 4 first moves as a 7th rank pawn does. (2020-05-03)
Gerd Wilts: Promotions to pawns are now also supported. (2020-05-03)
James Malcom: Many thanks Gerd! (2020-05-03)
A.Buchanan: I had missed these 6 miniatures: they are terrific! Can I ask to replace Sg8 in this one with L so that it's not giving check in the starting position. I guess it's kind of crass though economical to replace with pawn! (2020-10-13)
A.Buchanan: Dummy pawns can in principle move imho: it's just that they're usually blocked by the edge of the board. If one was teleported somewhere else on the board by some mechanism, then they would just start moving. So completely different kind of animal from a dummy, which genuinely cannot move :D (2020-10-13)
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Keywords: Joke, Joke promotion, under-promotion (b)
Genre: s#
FEN: 6nk/7P/6PK/6PP/8/8/8/8
Input: James Malcom, 2020-04-14
Last update: James Malcom, 2020-06-02 more...
2 - P1381916
James Malcom
PDB Website 14/11/2020
P1381916
(13+9)
s#11
(-:
1. h8=T+! Sh6 2. exd8=K! b3 3. a8=sS! b2 4. b8=sL! La7 5. e4 Lb8 6. e5 La7 7. e6 Lb8 8. e7 La7 9. e8=B! Lb8 10. Ta4 La7 11. Txa7 g4#
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A rather... complicated "joke."
A.Buchanan: If one allows promotion to sB (and there seems no reason to disallow it since promotion to pawn, king and foreign units are allowed) then the problem is cooked. There is no universally agreed notion of how a pawn can move if it starts on the first rank. Does it get a double hop, and if so on which rank? But the problem is unsound in any case. (2022-02-10)
James Malcom: That is if, yes. But I don't think this problem ought to be left as is: a demonstration of the levels of absurdity and tomfoolery old rules used to allow. Promotion to a piece of another color and dummies were loopholes, yes, but promotion to a black pawn was never included, not even implicitly. All pawns are pieces, but not all pieces are pawns. (2022-02-10)
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Keywords: Joke promotion (Ksl), Dummy Pawn, konsekutive Umwandlungen 5 (TKslB), under-promotion key (T), Excelsior white, Golden Age (Dummy Pawn), Illegal position (no wK), Joke
Genre: s#, Fairies
Computer test: Difficult to test at the moment because no engine allows both normal and adversarial promotion.
FEN: 2Rr2n1/PPpBP2P/1pP5/1N4pk/1p4Rb/6pP/4P1P1/1Q6
Input: James Malcom, 2020-11-14
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2023-12-11 more...
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