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6 problem(s) found in 5189 milliseconds (displaying 6 problem(s)). [COMMENTDATE>=20220810 AND G='Retro' AND S='feenschach' AND K='Minimal'] [download as LaTeX]

1 - P0000933
Luigi Ceriani
Sahovski vjesnik 12/1951
1. Preis
P0000933
(2+11) C+
Letzter Zug?
R: 1. Kg8xDh8
Solved in YouTubex httx//www. youtube. com/watch?v=Do_rkLQnrpk
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Compare P0000490 with equivalent material but 30 years later.
A.Buchanan: Solved in YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_rkLQnrpk (2022-02-17)
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Keywords: Type A, Last Move? (KxD), Economy record (Last Move? Type A), Type B (a fortiori), Economy record (Last Move? Type B), Minimal
Genre: Retro
Computer test: Solved in YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_rkLQnrpk
FEN: 3bkN1K/pppprp1p/4p1p1/8/8/8/8/8
Reprints: 1372 FEENSCHACH 08-09/1952
Problem 10-12 12/1952
1.2A Eigenartige Schachprobleme , p. 172, 2010
1.2B Eigenartige Schachprobleme , p. 172, 2010
YouTube 13/02/2022
Input: Gerd Wilts, 1995-06-03
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2023-06-01 more...
2 - P0002056
Samuel Loyd
Musical World 1859
P0002056
(2+4) C+
#2
1. Da1! droht (unparierbar) 2. Dh8#
1. ... 0-0-0? ist illegal, da sK oder sTa8 schon gezogen haben muss
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Hans-Jürgen Manthey: Nachdruck SExpress 1.Mai 1947 S.41 Nr.33 (2022-10-15)
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Keywords: Cant Castler, Castling (sg), Minimal, Miniature, Homebase
Genre: Retro, 2#
Computer test: C+ Popeye 4.61
FEN: r3k3/p1p5/Q3K3/8/8/8/8/8
Reprints: 304 Chess Strategy (Loyd) 1878
73 150 Schachkuriositäten 1910
63 Sam Loyd and his Chess Problems 1913
43 64 Schach-Scherze 1915
32 Retrograde Analysis 1915
168 Allgemeine Zeitung Chemnitz 27/11/1927
Arbeiter-Zeitung (Wien) 27/11/1932
8 Comoedia 09/07/1933
(II) Problem 37-40 09/1956
(D10) feenschach 27 04/1975
84 100 Classics of the Chessboard 1983
(7a) Die Schwalbe 145 08/1995
Thema Danicum 95 1999
52 Opfer-Opfer-Matt Gaudium 21 10/2000
Outrageous Chess Problems 2005
Input: Gerd Wilts, 1995-06-03
Last update: Mario Richter, 2023-05-26 more...
3 - P0005387
Nikita M. Plaksin
6557 feenschach 109 11/1993
P0005387
(2+2) C+
-1w, dann =1
R: 1. Ka3-a4?, dann 1. Lxa2=
R: 1. Ka3xBa4!, dann 1. Lxa2=
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Mit folgender witziger Begründung des Autors: "If on the board are only KL-KL (and LL on squares of the same colour), by the rules of chess an immediate draw occurs! Therefore, the retro move Ka3-a4 is illegal." Ein Fehllöser: "Reichlich trivial." Ein Ratloser: "... oder wie darf ich das sehen?" TK hatte den Durchblick: "Die doppelte Rücknahmemöglichkeit kann man aber gar nicht übersehen (und schon gar nicht der Autor). Einzige Möglichkeit: nur Ka3xBa4, weil andernfalls die Stellung schon vorher patt wäre. Aber, aber: das ist remis, kein Patt!!" FR: "Meine 'Ehrenlösung' für diese Gruppe (hoffentlich stimmt sie auch)." WM: "Nette Pointe. Das erzähl' ich meinen Kindern, daß ich einen PLAKSIN gelöst habe." 1,2/I
A harbinger of Dead Reckoning-style reasoning, before that rule ever existed. As sound today in 2018, as when it was composed under "insufficient material for mate" rule.
Henrik Juel: Nice to see that I am not the only freak who mixes english text with german notation (to avoid the ambiguous B)
Were you inspired by this problem in your work on Dead Reckoning, Andrew? (2020-05-04)
A.Buchanan: Ha no: when I stumbled across DP rule I knew even less about chess problems than I know now, if you can imagine, and had never encountered this one which Werner Keym unearthed and published it in "Out Of the Box". Ecclesiastes 1:9 says "There is nothing new under the sun." Mario made this point about origin of Schnoebelen promotions too. Gollon's intepretation of Chaturanga (the earliest known forebear of chess) offers fascinating possibilities for Schnoebelen promotion, which I am sure the Indian retrograde analysts of 7th Century CE were adept at exploiting, in tablets alas now lost. See https://www.chessvariants.com/historic.dir/chaturanga.html.

The "insufficient material" composition does perhaps explain Plaksin's openness to the concept of DP, at a time when perhaps some noses elsewhere were being turned up, as he later composed with Kornilov *27* other DP problems, all to be found in PDB. (2020-05-04)
Ladislav Packa: Interesting, but on YouTube I saw a game (one of the actors was Magnus Carlsson), which ended in a position with only two kings and one of the players still made a move. (2020-05-05)
A.Buchanan: http://wismuth.com/chess/illegal-moves.html contains many other games where GMs were unable to tear themselves away from playing the dead game. I think it's kind of sweet that the GMs just can't stop playing. Have you got a link to the Carlsen game please, Ladislav? (2020-05-06)
Ladislav Packa: I'm sorry, Andrew, but I don't remember. I've seen hundreds of games on youtube. But I encountered similar cases in my own practice, mostly a joke, and the game immediately ended with a smile and a handshake. (2020-05-06)
A.Buchanan: A completely different stipulation: -w, h=1 half-duplex (2024-01-11)
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Keywords: Help retractor, Dead Position, Aristocrat, Miniature, Minimal
Genre: Retro, Fairies
Computer test: C+ deadpos v2.1 8-Jan-2024
FEN: 8/8/8/8/K7/8/b7/kB6
Reprints: 440 Out Of the Box , p. 141, 2018
www.thbrand.de 14/01/2018
Input: Gerd Wilts, 1995-06-03
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2024-01-18 more...
4 - P0007185
Jesse George Ingram
10231 The Fairy Chess Review 06/1955
P0007185
(2+2)
-1w, dann h=1 half-duplex
R: 1. a5xDb6, dann 1. a6 Dd6=
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Olaf Jenkner: Wieso wird Weiß pattgesetzt? (2010-03-02)
Mario Richter: Weil der Komponist das so wollte :-)
In fs33 ist die Forderung wie folgt wiedergegeben: "Wei� nimmt einen Zug zurück und hilft, da� Schwarz sofort pattsetzen kann." (2010-03-03)
Olaf Jenkner: Ach so, h=1 bedeutet eigentlich, daß Schwarz beginnt. (2010-03-03)
Henrik Juel: Yes, it is a bit confusing; but for retros it is an old tradition that you should not interpret one move stipulations too rigorously. (2010-03-05)
Mario Richter: But at least retro play and forward play harmonize: the side that retracted last starts the forward play. (2010-03-05)
Adrian Storisteanu: Can easily make it conform to today's accepted standards (i.e., drop the half-duplex indication):

Ka1 pa2 / Kc1 pb3 (2+2)
-1b & h=1

- 1.a4xQb3 & 1.a4-a3 Qb3-d3= (2024-01-13)
Olaf Jenkner: Das wären dann viele Mütter. (2024-01-14)
A.Buchanan: @Olaf :-) (2024-01-15)
Adrian Storisteanu: :-) Just in reverse Polish notation...
(Didn't know the many fathers thing started that long ago. I totally missed both the obvious setting and the recorded keyword.) (2024-01-15)
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Keywords: Help retractor, Vielväterstellung, Kindergarten Problem, Minimal, Miniature
Genre: Retro, Fairies
FEN: k1K5/p7/1P6/8/8/8/8/8
Reprints: (5) feenschach 33 04-05/1976
Input: Gerd Wilts, 1996-08-15
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2024-01-18 more...
5 - P0500706
Simo Ylikarjula
4665 feenschach 76 08/11/1985
P0500706
(2+6) C+
h#5
2.1...
1) 1. ... g4 2. e6 g5 3. Ke7 g6 4. Td8 gxf7 5. Td7 f8=D#
2) 1. ... g3 2. Kd7 g4 3. Td8 g5 4. Ke8 g6 5. Sd7 gxf7#
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Numerous retro tries but none distinct
Retro!-patt, Aufspaltung Doppelschritt!, Excelsior, Umwandlung
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Keywords: Promotion in the mating move, Excelsior white (auto key), No legal last move for White, Minimal
Genre: h#, Retro
Computer test: Popeye C-Version 3.52 (2048 KB)
FEN: 4k2r/4ppK1/5n1p/8/8/8/6P1/8
Reprints: 365 Minimalkunst im Schach 2006
Input: Gerd Wilts, 1996-06-06
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2023-12-08 more...
6 - P1068215
Zdravko Maslar
4936 feenschach 12/1986
2. Preis WJP
P1068215
(1+2)
-1s, dann h=1
b) Kc1 nach b2
c) Kc1 nach a3
d) Kc1 nach a4
a) R: 1. Kb2xDc1, dann 1. Kb3 Da1=
b) R: 1. Ka1xTb2, dann 1. b3 Kc3=
c) R: 1. a5xSb4, dann 1. a4 Kc3=
d) R: 1. c5xLb4, dann 1. c4+ Kxc4=
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Henrik Juel: a real gem (2023-05-20)
Adrian Storisteanu: Not an Allentschlag, there is no pawn uncapture. (2023-05-21)
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Keywords: Help retractor, RIFACE Retro Solving Tourney (2022), Kindergarten Problem, Minimal, Miniature, Kindergarten Problem, Miniature, Kindergarten Problem, Kindergarten Problem
Genre: Retro, Fairies
FEN: 8/8/8/8/1p6/3K4/8/2k5
Reprints: feenschach 158 01-03/2005
3 Phénix 331, p. 12922, 06/2022
Input: Gerd Wilts, 2006-01-21
Last update: A.Buchanan, 2024-01-18 more...
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